roge
110 posts
Apr 25, 2011
1:18 PM
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Delcodude how you doing? Right where Roy's is now is where the Ross Cat was,it opened around 66 or 67 and was a hangout for kids going to Wilbur Wright High School,they served 3.2 beer,after that the bar was called Cricket's ,then it went to Roy's place
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STEVEnSUE
1 post
Jun 08, 2011
9:13 PM
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This is Sue. Anyone remember the Maple Grove on East Third? I had my first beer in there at age 3. Dad tended bar and would bet $20 I could drink a glass, get off the bar stool, walk across the room and back without falling down. He took home many a $20's. This was back in the early 50's.
Also anyone remember having turtle soup and the east side tarvens? My Aunt made the soup in a separate room at her house. How I would lover to have a bowl again.
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DebCB
60 posts
Jun 09, 2011
8:32 AM
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STEVEnSUE...I don't think I was ever in the Maple Grove but our next door neighbors, The Frosts, went there almost every weekend for dinner and lots of drinks in the 50's and 60's and probably the 70's.
I also remember Mr. Frost bringing home these really big turtles and cutting off their heads while they bit on a big stick. He did this in the back yard and all of us kids were horrified yet fascinated.
He was going to give them to someone to make soup.
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FAITH
49 posts
Jun 09, 2011
11:35 AM
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STEVEnSUE, Maple Grove is among my earliest memories. My so-very-young parents (23&20) would take me in there in the 60s. Mom used to tell me that people just marveled over my very curly hair! Funny thing- between Maple Grove and Hi Lees, I probably spent more time in bars before age 5 than I have in the remaining 40 years! But that was a different time- it was more of a family thing.
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delcodude
169 posts
Jun 10, 2011
8:38 AM
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STEVEnSUE:
My Grandma made turtle soup from soft shell turtles that my Great Grandpa gigged. Served it with oyster crackers. It was good. The gig looked like a semi-blunt harpoon on the end of a rake handle. My Great Grandfather would also slaughter hogs in the upstairs bathtub, I was told..
Last Edited by on Jun 10, 2011 8:39 AM
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Doug68
126 posts
Jun 13, 2011
1:05 PM
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I used to go to the Fireside on Salem Avenue in the mid 70s. Had the hots for a barmaid named Lorraine. Before that, it was the Side Door adjacent Northtown Shopping Center.
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Doug68
127 posts
Jun 13, 2011
1:10 PM
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Regarding the Maple Grove, it was badly damaged last year when a vehicle ran thru its front window. Joe Bissett, the late owner of the original Grubb Steak Restaurant, once bartended at the Maple Grove.
Re Quigs on Dorothy Lane, the mother of an ex-girlfriend of mine used to own it with her husband. It was known for its subs.
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Judy39
2 posts
Jul 15, 2011
9:34 AM
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My favorite tavern was Doc's Corner in Westwood. He had the best hamburgers I've ever had.
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trolleyfan
20 posts
Aug 08, 2011
7:04 PM
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DelcoDude. I used to go there when we lived out in Beavercreek. You pegged it correct. My favorte neighborhood tavern was Bruns at the corner of Patterson and Wilmington. Great Draft Beer (Schlitz & Hudepol) and ham and cheese sandwiches.
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delcodude
194 posts
Aug 09, 2011
7:10 AM
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trolleyfan:
I bet we know some of the same people. I used to go in Bruns too. It was kind of quirky how you had to walk up steps inside to enter the bar. Very laid-back atmosphere. used to go in Taggart's Pub across the street too. Remember the Hande-Bar at Woodman and Patterson, where CVS is now?
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trolleyfan
22 posts
Aug 10, 2011
6:57 PM
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I was in the Hande Bar a few times Delcodude. Wasn't that thje oe on the corner o patterson and Woodman across from the E-Walt Circle Bus Loop ? WhatHigh chool did you go too Delcodude ? I went to Beavercreek. Graduated 1964.
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delcodude
196 posts
Aug 10, 2011
8:26 PM
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trolleyfan:
You may have a martini or two on me. Wilbur Wright class of '78. Yeah, that was the Hande Bar on the corner. Cheers..
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Linda63
3 posts
Aug 26, 2011
10:48 AM
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Howard and the Darts...was that Howard Davis...his band was at the Twist Club in the mid 60's on east 3rd street.
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Mikey
139 posts
Jan 21, 2012
3:13 PM
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Now that is too bad about the Maple Grove. Good food, nice neighborhood hangout, but tooo smokey!
My favorite was Pete's Point at First and Springfield Sts. A great favorite of local workers for just about the best home cooked lunches on earth. A different entree every day. Later known as Bosco's?
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tlturbo
293 posts
Jan 21, 2012
5:26 PM
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trollyfan - I was Beavercreek 65
One of my favorite places was also at Patterson and Wilmington I believe, the Lions Den. I spent a lot of time there and met a lot of cute girls. I was even there early in the night that it caught on fire. West side of Wilmington across from the Shell (I think) gas station. I sure don't remember those other places mentioned but then I left Dayton in Jan 72.
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Juanita57
24 posts
Jan 25, 2012
8:17 AM
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My husband always talks about Rudy's on Creighton Avenue. He said his dad would send him down there to fill up their glass containers with beer. And, I remember going there to buy cigarettes when I was a freshman at Wilbur Wright High School.
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jfox68
42 posts
Jan 25, 2012
8:52 AM
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Juanita57 - I used to bowl in a league with my Dad and Rudy's Tavern was our sponser. We woulds always stop by Rudy's after bowling. I believe Tom Monday was the owner. He used to be the air scout on the radio giving traffic reports. I think I still have a Rudy's tavern jacket at home.
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Jazzbass01
3 posts
Jan 29, 2012
8:54 PM
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Hey Trolleyfan! I may have been one of your neighbors, you first name wouldn't happen to be Barry would it??
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JJflash2012
3 posts
Apr 28, 2012
10:55 AM
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White Sail Inn gets my vote, deep in a residential area off of Woodman - we watched the locals get pickled nightly, try to get served 6% (sometimes successfully)
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Calhoun
21 posts
Apr 28, 2012
2:38 PM
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I grew up just a couple hundred yards from the "Trebein Tavern" on Old Rte. 35 (Dayton-Xenia Rd) in the little village of Trebein in Beavercreek Township. The place was dark and smokey, as a youngster it seemed like it never closed. We'd go in there as kids in the summer and order a coke and sit at the bar. There was always one old guy in there who was long retired from the railroad. He'd tell us kids stories about going cross country by rail and kicking hobos of the trains.
The place burnt down sometime in the late 70s I think.
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Sharon35
6 posts
Aug 31, 2012
8:41 AM
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Old Harrigan's and Brun's in the 40's and 50's at the corner of Patterson Road and Wilmington Pike.
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rdebross
6 posts
Dec 07, 2012
5:10 PM
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The trek down Xenia Ave. in East Dayton during the late 1950's took you past about one bar per block. Spatz's Tavern at St. Joseph, Shamrock Inn at Hulbert, Herbert's Cafe near St. Paul, the Nightcap at Nassau, Hautmann's at Dover and Tom's Tavern just beyond Steele. Went past most of them on my way to St. Mary's Church which had its own bar in the church basement. My dad had a stool pretty much reserved for him at Spatz's so that was the only one I remember being inside besides the one in the church basement.
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Mark1984
28 posts
Dec 08, 2012
8:27 AM
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The Nightcap at Xenia & Nassau use to be Sonny's Nightcap. My grandparents lives in the block behind it. I can't remember what the name of the place was before Sonny's. But I recall seeing a glass ashtray from the place. My grandparents would go there on Friday nights for fish sandwiches and turtle soup. My grandfather would always bring a glass jug with him that he would have filled with beer before they left. The bar is still there. DJ's Nightcap. Hasn't been open in awhile. Not sure why.
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gulwop
1 post
Dec 10, 2012
3:57 AM
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I remember Steve's & the cabbage rolls & all the big band music
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Syxpack
21 posts
Dec 10, 2012
12:31 PM
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gulwop Yes the cabbage rolls at Steve's Bar were wonderful, a handed down recipe from his mom or grandparent. My husband's niece was Steve's 2nd wife and if they weren't fighting like cats and dogs, they weren't happy. We would visit them and a sinister looking group was always in the backroom playing cards (right out of "The Godfather")
Mark1984 and rdebross - I lived on Church Street behind The Nightcap in 1947 and again in the '50's. My parents lived there until the '60's and all during those years it was called The Nightcap. My husband's sister and her husband Harold Evans owned the Evans Bakery on the corner of McClure and Xenia Ave for years, next to Beigel Jewelers. There was a bar across the street from the bakery called Barringers (spelling may be wrong) that later became "George & Ethels" and then something else. All the bars named brought back many memories. One of my husbands sisters was always a barmaid along Xenia Avenue.
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roge
130 posts
Dec 11, 2012
4:42 PM
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Syxpack,yes I remember Steves well,was his second wife named Norma? Wasn't she killed in a car accident?I remember the juke box big band records,Steve also had a popular organ player on Saturday nights by the name of Carl Mcdonald,also his boy freddy was to have taken over the bar,but a fire in April of 78 destroyed it
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Syxpack
22 posts
Dec 11, 2012
5:50 PM
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roge - She was Norma Lou Bryan before she married her 1st husband Eldon Pohl and was raised by her grandmother after her parents both died in 1943. Her grandmother was my mother-in-law. Yes she and Steve were having another argument when she went into the bar at the point where Springfield and Third Streets meet. She got into another argument in the bar with someone and left in a huff after drinking too much. For some unknown reason she ended up hitting the bar with her car and was on life support for a day before passing away. I either didn't know or I forgot about Steves burning down until I read your post. Norma passed away in 1972. I remember the organ player, but didn't know his name. He was great!
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Mark1984
29 posts
Dec 12, 2012
9:24 AM
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Syxpack. There was a bar called The Keyboard. Right across from the Wright-Patt Credit union is now. What was it before the Keyboard? Quite some time ago, up & down Xenia Ave there was pratically a bar on every corner,
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Syxpack
24 posts
Dec 14, 2012
3:42 PM
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Mark1984 - I wasn't familiar with The Keyboard, and didn't know where it was located, so I had to call on my two sons, one who is a City of Dayton Housing Inspector. When he told me where it was, I knew immediately what it had been called (at least what it was called in the '40's and '50's) My husband's nephew Billy Gibbs, after his stint in the Army, lived with his mother at her bakery and spent much time at Tony's which is what it was called then. My son said after the Keyboard, it was called CJ's Keyboard and has since closed. He didn't know if it had a different name between Tony's and The Keyboard. In fact, he said there were no more open bars on Xenia Avenue, since DJ's on the corner of Nassau and Xenia closed several months ago. Xenia Avenue is no longer safe to travel on. I remember my older son taking the surface streets during a snowstorm a couple of years ago, and chose Xenia Avenue. He said he was propositioned once and offered drugs for sale before he reached Linden Avenue. My kids attended Ruskin School for a few years and had to walk on Xenia Avenue. They could stop anywhere along the "Avenue" such as Rusty's Pharmacy, Marks's Dry Goods Store, Mrs Miller's Gift Shop and even The Nightcap where their grandpa might be. If he was there, they could go in and have an orange pop on him. They especially liked to stop at their aunt's bakery in the morning on the way to school. They could always count on her for their choice of a doughnut or cookie. I never had to worry about them on that street. I wonder if the parents have to walk their kids to school now-a-days. The last time I was down there, I saw a few hookers as well as what I thought were druggies. A different time and age.
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Mark1984
33 posts
Dec 18, 2012
3:06 PM
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Syxpack-My grandparents also lived on Church. Closer to Steele. Yeah, Xenia Ave is nothing like the way it was when I was a younger boy back in the 70s. The buildings for Mrs Miller's gift shop and Rusty's are still standing. Just empty. Made many a trip to Xenia Ave feed store when I worked at a kennel. Also gone now.
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Bill628
21 posts
Dec 20, 2012
9:40 AM
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Used to frequent Village Tavern, Gettysburg & Prescot, early 70s. There was a stairway that led up to the bathroom and it was steep. It was funny going up to the bathroom, the window facing Gettysburg was always wide open. Cars sitting at the light in front of the grocery across the street were always looking up there! I don't know how many times I was sitting at the bar and would hear someone tumbling down the steps drunk. There was a large pullup shade covering the back bar on Sundays. If the barmaid knew you real well she'd slip her hand behind the shade and get you a shot.
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jfox68
63 posts
Dec 20, 2012
10:36 AM
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dhoertt, I hung out at Carls for a little while in the late 60s early 70s. My sister was dating one of the bartenders (Larry Mahle) and they eventually married and divorced.
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johnfader
2 posts
Dec 24, 2012
9:00 PM
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Luckac's on Western Ave, had the best pork tenderloin sandwiches I have ever eaten. In the late 40's and early 50's my Dad would take me there when he would get his jug filled with beer to take home. Across the street was Kuntz's, who had a fantastic turtle soup every Friday. Mr. Kuntz would catch the turtles every week for his soup.Doc's corner, in Westwood, had a great cheeseburger.My uncle Joe Fader worked there part time as a bartender.
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Riverdale Ghost
314 posts
Dec 25, 2012
4:20 AM
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johnfader,
Based on your above posting, I suspect we may be related (or interrelated) and/or you may have gone to Resurrection school. If you don't want to post your email address here, post a nothing much comment in my weblog (they're forwarded to me) to get in touch.
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 Honest Communications Is The Foundation of Civilizations.
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johnfader
11 posts
Dec 30, 2012
11:59 AM
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Riverdale Ghost I tried posting on your web but must not have done something right. My email is johnffader@comcast.net. I did go to Reurrection from about 1945 to 1950.I then went to Sacred Heart Latin School in downtown Dayton. Went to Roosevelt from 1952 until graduating in 1955.
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olds88
66 posts
Feb 11, 2013
6:20 PM
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The Black Knight across from Rikes kettering,Alibi in miamisburg great owner Eddie Thomas and Bruns on wilmington at patterson
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jack1953
1 post
May 10, 2013
8:05 PM
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I can shed some light on the Hilgeford shooting at the She.
I played in a rock band with Bill and 3 other guys in junior high school.
That band split up after our freshman year, and since I started attending Patterson Co-op in my sophomore year I didn't see too much of Bill.
I do remember when that night happened and a lot of the details that came out following that night through the trial and conviction of the shooter, who I believe was named Dominguez.
That night Bill, and 4 other guys, Mickey (Jose) Lopez, Steve Staford, Tim Lipovsky, and Mark Walhay went to the She with fake IDs.
When they were leaving they got into a verbal ruckus with Dominguez and the other boys.
Dominguez was in the back of an El Camino and started chasing and shooting at Hilgeford who was driving.
I've heard different versions of how Bill ended up getting shot, but the one that seems to have been reliable, was that Hilgeford slammed on the brakes hoping the El Camino would go flying by them, and when it did, Dominguez shot into the car and hit Bill.
I was at Bill's funeral and it was the first one I ever attended where it was someone my age and a friend of mine! Very tragic and hard to deal with.
If my memory serves me, Dominguez ended up plea bargaining to manslaughter and got 5 or 6 years, got out and ended up getting shot and killed at a bar himself! Poetic justice?
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Forgiven, forgotten, set free!!
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Calhoun
140 posts
May 10, 2013
8:29 PM
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Unless I missed it, surprised no one mentioned McGuffys House of Draft in Riverside. The place had multiple personalities.... it was a biker bar, head banger concert veunue, respectable sports bar on weekends, and lunch site for the WPAFB crowd on weekdays.
I got to be pretty good friends with the owner, John, back in the day. He was a fairly laid back guy, always seemed to have a lot of balls in the air at any one time. The cook at the time was a women named Bertie, she made the best damn nachos I ever ate.
Word has it that John skipped town a step ahead of the IRS and was alive and well in the British Virgin Islands living the good life.
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joey m
59 posts
May 11, 2013
9:03 AM
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NEWCOMS, I KNEW THE OWNERS TONY VITALE AND GARY EVANS, MIKE DUFFY AND I CANT REMEMBER THE OTHER GUYS NAME. MOST OF YOU PROBABLY WOULDNT HAVE KNOWN ABOUT THIS PLACE BUT IT WAS CALLED "THE VANCE CLUB". IT WAS A COMPLETE OPPOSITE OF NEWCOMS.
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