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mjr1960
2 posts
Aug 24, 2010
3:01 PM
From Hillcrest north. Attaboy, Hasty Tasty, parkmoor, burger chef, Salem Drive in, Ponderosa, Cassanos, dairy Queen, Holiday Health spa,Iga foodtown, Stumps, Hodges car wash,Country Boy(i think),Durrel paint, Liberal, kfc, Royal Crest, Keyhole, Keyhole Carryout, A&P,Shoppers Fair. These are the ones I could think of off the top of my Head. Now all gone, Maybe not the buildings but definatly the business. I now live in vandalia and you just don't have the choices here that I had when we lived in that area. Im sure I missed a few and probably repeated a couple. Someone alot of posts back asked about lights at salem and siebenthaler. I remember when it was 2 lanes on siebenthaler thru the intersection and tall old buildings on the northwest corner, Had to be in the middle to late 60's about the same time they rerouted gettysburg
RIVERDALE RAT
485 posts
Aug 24, 2010
3:34 PM
Do you remember the old spooky house that sat on Hillcrest, a few hundred yards behind the Atta Boy and on the opposite side of the street? It sat kinda in a sunken little valley, I think the rear of the property extended almost to the Miracle Mile Plaza.

Is the Hasty Tasty building still standing?

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mjr1960
4 posts
Aug 24, 2010
4:15 PM
No I don't know or remember anything about the house, Also the hasty tasty has been gone for a long time but the bushes that were out front of the building were there quite a while after they tore it down. Built a wendy's north of hasty tasty and bushes were next to parking lot on south side. Hasty had a sloping parking lot you could enter-exit from hillcrest or salem
RIVERDALE RAT
490 posts
Aug 24, 2010
4:27 PM
I remember, I dated, Or was chasing one of the car hop's at the Hasty Tasty. If memory serves, that was one of the few Drive-in's that never used Brownie Cop's. I cant ever find anybody that remembers that old house.
Lgrando67
21 posts
Aug 24, 2010
11:33 PM
R.R.... Was the spooky house a 3 story brick farm house like structure that looked totally out of place where it was? Did it have what you may call a cupola on top that was rather large and would have made a great "Light House"? If so I believe it was the Schroeder house. The lady that lived there was very involved in the Arts. I went to a cast party there once in 1964 for a play that was done at Fairview High School. I believe there was a carriage house just north of the big house also. It was at the corner of Kipling and Hillcrest. The house should still be there.
RIVERDALE RAT
495 posts
Aug 25, 2010
7:39 AM
Lgrando67

YES!! That sure is the house, I was unable to remember Kipling Dr. Actually it was only spooky because we were kids and heard/told stories about it. At that age there's no chance of appreciating a beautiful old piece of property, it's much more fun as a haunted/witch house. We were always going to sneak onto the property after dark and snoop around, but we somehow never got around to it. I remember back then Hillcrest was as far out as the old #5 Trolley went, it used to loop there by the golf course. If you wanted to go any further, you had to walk up past Gettysburg and catch the FT. Mc Kinley feeder route, which was a gasoline Bus.

Thanks much for the information/background on the house; I thought I would never find anyone who knew what I was talking about.
old4d
49 posts
Aug 25, 2010
10:36 AM
I was always intrigued by that house. It was up for sale once, maybe about 15 or more years ago, but only recently I think someone bought it, because the last time I was over that way, I noticed a lot of work had been done on it. That was maybe a couple months ago.
mjr1960
8 posts
Aug 25, 2010
12:42 PM
Riverdale Rat. Did you live near that area, I lived near the end of hillcrest on thornton in the 60's went to Hickorydale thru 65- 70 school years. Kindergarden thru 4th. We used to ride our bikes up to arkies carryout on free pike at gettsyburg. Or down to the wolf creek behind the houses south of the school. those were the days.
RIVERDALE RAT
500 posts
Aug 25, 2010
4:37 PM
mjr1960

No, I never lived past Grand Ave, it was just one of my hangouts as a kid. I had a couple of other kid's that I used to run around with and we would explore all over Town on the weekends and look for stuff to get into. (Fun stuff, not crime related like many kid's do today) We were always finding new places to explore, a new basketball court or a new place to hang around, where the girl's were. Later on I had a summer job working for Atta Boy and they shipped me all over Town, I did work at that station a few times
Nile
13 posts
Feb 24, 2011
5:29 PM
OK..... The creepy house. Indeed it was owned by Mary Scroeder. She had a son named J.R. He now lives in Columbus and has a church. Mary Schroeder is still alive and also lives in Columbus. I was personal friends with J.R. (still am) and I was there many times. We had our prom party there in 1963. I played there alot. It is an old gypsy house. The family room, if you want to call it that, is the old kitchen with a stone floor. I talked with J.R. on the phone about three months ago. And yes, the house is kind of creepy. I remember lots of times being at the house. Many stories.
Bill628
7 posts
Dec 07, 2012
4:20 PM
I remember 'Hoot Gibsons' Phillips 66' at Philadelphia and Salem---The giant cowboy hat sitting on the old T-Bird, I think.
driver62
433 posts
Dec 08, 2012
5:26 AM
Bill628 - Yep, that was a T-Bird at Hoot Gibsons. I think it was white and the big hat was red.
tlturbo
433 posts
Dec 08, 2012
7:16 AM
About 1971 I worked for Cole Layer Trumble which had a large black bldg I think somewhere on Salem and then a few miles before the Salem Mall, they bought a house on the right side heading out Salem maybe a lot of 2 back from the corner. I was a computer programmer and they ran out of office space so moved us into the house. I THINK there was also a house next door we used too. The street it was on could be taken as a shortcut back past a park or some open area and ended up at the shopping center on N Main just across the street and just before Forest Park. They rented office in the upstaris of that shopping center and moved some of us over there from the house.

When I worked there, we ate lunch at a restaurant on the right side of Salem kind of at the top of a hill before Salem went down th the Salem Mall, I dated a gal that worked there a few times in probably 71 before I moved to FL in Jan 72.
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supersix
92 posts
Dec 08, 2012
8:11 AM
I could be wrong but I was thinking Hoot Gibson's station was at Phildelphia and Sibenthaler.
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Bill628
10 posts
Dec 08, 2012
12:23 PM
@supersix-- I'm thinking it was northwest corner of salem?
supersix
93 posts
Dec 08, 2012
8:02 PM
You are probably correct. I was thinking of Pete Wilson's Phillips 66, not Hoot Gibson's. My mistake. I don't recollect the station at Salem.
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Bill628
17 posts
Dec 09, 2012
6:36 AM
I remember a Pete Wilson station at N.Main and Philadelphia Dr. across from Clark, 70s and 80s. Had my car worked on there a few times.
Billd1952
8 posts
Dec 16, 2012
3:52 PM
Hoot Gibson had a Shell Station at Little York and Dixie,A Marathon Station on Salem, just doen from Catalpa and at Salem & Philadelphia. Hoot was a good guy, and he loved those T birds. He had 3 of them
tlturbo
437 posts
Dec 17, 2012
1:40 PM
I've mentioned this before but no one answers with a name. If you go out Salem toward the old Salem Mall, I remember kind of going up s slight hill then back down to the mall. At the top of the hill on the right was a sit down fast food place we ate at back in early 70's. Anyone know what it was? Kind of reminds me of a current day House of Pancakes.

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Mark1984
31 posts
Dec 17, 2012
5:38 PM
tlturbo. Help me out here a little. I grew up in Trotwood. Where about on Salem are you talking about? There was an IHOP across from the mall. Little further down next to the old Wendy's was a Western Sizzlin'. Little further down was a sit down restaurant. I think it was called Sambo's. Got turned into something else later. Narrow it down a bit and I think I can help.
driver62
436 posts
Dec 18, 2012
6:27 AM
tlturbo, I'm pretty sure it was an IHOP. After it closed, I think it was a Pizza Hut. It would have been across Shiloh Springs from the Mall where Best Buy, now closed, was located. The Wendy's was on the west side of Salem next to Tom Harrigan Olds. Further out Salem on the west side was a Bill Knapps.

So Mark, how's my memory?
Mark1984
32 posts
Dec 18, 2012
2:56 PM
Driver 62. Forgot all about Bill Knapp's! The pizza hut was just a bit south of the IHOP. Then a little further down was the old Hill's dept. store. Before that it was a Rink's. And across the street from Rink's was a Gold Circle(later became a Value City store). How am I doing so far?
mjr1960
72 posts
Dec 18, 2012
3:50 PM
Tlturbo, Early in the 70's right behind the Bp (sohio) the was a hamburger place, but the name escapes me at the moment. There was also a house of pancakes closer to shiloh springs, and a pizza hut later on. All these plus a bank a electronics (not best buy)store. kroger, grey drug, millers, town & country furniture, were in the triangle area of salem, denlinger, shiloh springs, The original bp,hamburger place, ihop all are gone>
mjr1960
73 posts
Dec 18, 2012
3:59 PM
Sambo's was where the the pep boys is now, salem mall lincoln mercury was next on the right going out. before the the now closed walmart. Mark1984, your pretty close to being dead on!!
mjr1960
74 posts
Dec 18, 2012
4:39 PM
The bank was as i recall was 1st national, the electronic place was a tv store, Scotty's sounds kind of right, didn,\'t last much past 70-71 but was there in 69 or so. State Fidelity was on the gold circle side. Gold circle had its own grocery first, then fazios then county market, next was tuffy muffler, mcdonalds, then fish& chips,Changed to taco tico changed to cassano's then tom harrigan, wow my brain hurts. LOL
Mark1984
36 posts
Dec 18, 2012
4:48 PM
TV store. Rex? Wasn't the fish & chips place Arthur Treacher's? I haven't been out that way in quite some time. But you are blowing the cobwebs out of my brain! You have the banks right. I recall now. Forgot about Fazio's next to Gold Circle. Couldn't you go from one store to the other without going outside? On one corner of Salem & Shiloh Springs was a Shell station, had a car wash.
mjr1960
75 posts
Dec 18, 2012
6:20 PM
rex was on top of the hill, the tv place i was talking about faced north on the parking lot side of the 1st national bank, yes u could walk thru from gold circle to the grocery, also a walk thru from kroger to grey at one time, yes to shell with bill knapps behind that and stop & go across from dr. lipton the dentist in front of toys r us. We lived just a mile north of all these places from 70 to 94 been in most a few dozen times Haha
Mark1984
37 posts
Dec 18, 2012
7:15 PM
You got me. I can not remember the name of the TV place. I can't even picture it! Wait a minute! Facing north on the 1st National side. I recall an auto parts store. Could that have been the TV store earlier? Having serious brain lock. Where is tlturbo? He got this started!
KennyE11
94 posts
Dec 18, 2012
9:33 PM
On the corner with the Shell station, you've recalled the Bill Knapp's and the Stop & Go, but you've forgotten the Boar's Head, which later became the Shiloh Spring House (with a Peerless Mill Inn connection). Late 70's - very Early 80's.
A little farther north, there was an Applebees, years later.
Mark1984
38 posts
Dec 19, 2012
3:29 AM
Boar's Head! That's it! KennyE11, can you help us out on the TV/electronics we're trying to recall?
driver62
437 posts
Dec 19, 2012
7:04 AM
There was a TV store on Salem across from Consumer Square. It was called Sun Eelectronics.I think that's where the K-Mart is now. K-Mart is also closing down. Rex was a little further south on Salem in a strip mall with the Fireside Lounge and Emhoff's Furniture.

carlatm - You beat me too it.

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Syxpack
26 posts
Dec 19, 2012
8:59 AM
Wasn't there an appliance store on Salem called Miami Hardware & Appliance Store? (May be the wrong name) I always lived in East Dayton, but I remember buying our first TV in 1952 from there. I couldn't believe that I could actually now watch my soaps instead of listening to them on the radio.

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Mark1984
39 posts
Dec 19, 2012
4:57 PM
Miami hardware & appliance. Forgot about that place. Had any possible hardware item that there ever was. Or they would find it for you. Haven't been out that way since they tore down Salem Mall. Probably wouldn't recognize the area now. Sounds like all my landmarks are gone. A little further north on Salem past K-Mart's original location was a store called Best Products. I doubt its still there. Wouldn't it be easier to list what is still there?
KennyE11
95 posts
Dec 19, 2012
7:55 PM
Mark - I'm still drawing a blank on what was at the location that became the Best Buy. I grew up near there, but I just can't recall.

I know it wasn't Rex, because as driver pointed out, that was in the shopping center with Emoff's Furniture, the Fireside, and there was even a Wilkie's Bookstore in there at one point. I believe the building still stands, but I don't know what's there.

Nearby was the Best Products store as you noted, but that is long gone. So is the Taco Bell, that was out front of that location. I used to eat there a lot.

I don't remember Sun Electronics that driver mentioned. A lot of the development of that part of Salem happened after I moved away. Heading north from the Shiloh Springs intersection, there was the Gulf(?) station at Salem Bend Drive, the Lincoln-Mercury dealer, the Sambo's restaurant, the vacant lot for the Plantation Country Club, and the Ken Rogers / Sinclair-Means Ford location. I worked there one summer growing up, when my Dad was still there.

It's fun trying to remember the area where I grew up. A lot of places mentioned in this thread were solid memories, but others I had forgotten about (like the Fish & Chips place). I remembered the Boar's Head because I had some special memories from that place.

As someone who grew up in the Salem Mall, it has always been rather depressing to see the area go down hill over the years...
Mark1984
44 posts
Dec 19, 2012
8:13 PM
Kenny-with every post, someone keep jogging the memory a bit more. I forgot about Wilkie News being there in that little shopping center. I was gone from the area for quite awhile. When I came back, it was kind of depressing looking around. I remember Salem Mall when the only anchor stores were Rike's and Sears. You go to Trotwood HS?
driver62
440 posts
Dec 20, 2012
7:09 AM
KennyE11 - Best Products was on Salem south of Rex and Emoff's on the same side of the street. It closed down many years ago. Later it was a Wolohan Lumber and the last I knew it was some kind of church. Anyone remember Builder's Square on Shiloh Springs? There was another lumber company in that area that was locally owned. Their main store was on Troy St. north of Stanley Ave. For some reason I can't remember the name.
mjr1960
76 posts
Dec 20, 2012
11:17 AM
driver- the wolohan was just to the west of Best products, yes remember Builders square, and sutherlands on the corner of shiloh springs and olive. If everybody would look at a bing map across from the gold circle entrance that is where the bank is, in that northwest part of the building started out as a tv store, then a auto parts store, then a shiping(ups) type store. Best buy was only part of the dept. store that started out as Millers to rinks to hills, the other half is big lots that was also burlington coat factory
driver62
441 posts
Dec 20, 2012
11:33 AM
mjr1960 - Thanks for refreshing my memory. Sutherlands was the lumber yard. Your are also right about the location of Wolohan. Forgive me, I'm 71 years old. LOL

Isn't Burlington Coat Factory now in the old Gold Circle?
mjr1960
77 posts
Dec 20, 2012
4:01 PM
Yes i believe so, haven't been out that way for a while and im sure this 52 year old brain has skipped a few items lol
mjr1960
78 posts
Dec 21, 2012
3:11 AM
Class of 78 here, Miss the area, vandalia is nice but not the same.
Mark1984
48 posts
Dec 21, 2012
3:46 AM
Class of 84, sister was class of 79, brother was 73/
johnfader
4 posts
Dec 24, 2012
9:20 PM
Jim "Hoot" Gibson had a Marathon station on the SW corner of Philadelphia Dr. and Salem Ave. He was my wife's uncle and used to drive stock cars at the Dayton Speedway.
Cross
2 posts
Dec 26, 2012
2:27 PM
North of Foodtown was Burger Chef on the westside, on the east side was Parkmore Restaurant and then Frisch's.
Parkmore closed in the late 60's early 70's,

A friend of mine named Dennis worked at Atta Boy for many years then went to work for Bonded Gas north of Frisch's. I grew up in this area.
Mark1984
56 posts
Dec 26, 2012
2:50 PM
Cross. Welcome to the memory blog. Always good to see a new user. Are you talking about Salem Ave? I remember where the Burger chef was. The only Frisch's on Salem I remember is the one that was at Salem/Wolf. The Foodtown is what is throwing me. I don't recall a Foodtown on Salem Ave. Help me out.
Mark1984
57 posts
Dec 27, 2012
6:26 AM
Okay! Where Stump's use to be. Now its clicking! Thanks for schooling the youngster here!
supersix
98 posts
Dec 27, 2012
6:46 AM
When the Foodtown opened it was called "Salem Lane" Foodtown.
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olds88
70 posts
Feb 12, 2013
6:10 PM
Dont forget the Chatterbox next to the movie theater.Great steaks.Owned by Cy and Bonnie brand.
Mark1984
80 posts
Feb 12, 2013
7:11 PM
olds88. Which movie theater are you talking about? The only one on Salem Ave that I can recall is the old Kon Tiki. There was a karate studio on one side and I don't recall what was on the other. The Chatterbox is ringing bells though.
olds88
77 posts
Feb 14, 2013
4:41 PM
Sorry Mark.Chatterbox was next to i believe the Salem theater on the east side of salem between Lexington and Superior.I believe Vic Cassano opened a huge up scale pizza house in the theater later.
Mark1984
83 posts
Feb 14, 2013
5:49 PM
olds88. Okay, you're talking Salem Ave a lot further down then I was thinking! I know where you're talking about now. Grand Ave is between Lexington & Superior. There is a building across the street (I think) that burned some time ago and has been rebuilt. Has a jeweler who has been there a LONG time. When my mother comes in from Arizona. She has a watch that my Dad gave to her long before I was thought of. She brings it to that jeweler to get cleaned.


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