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Steve K 136 posts Sep 27, 2009 4:22 PM	W.W. Mac's... sign is still there on East Third, but it's thrift store or a junk store now I think... East End Drugs was across the street on the corner... I'm thinking the entrance was actually right on the corner, kind of diagonally? Might still be a drug store in there... I'll have to drive down that way and see in the next couple of days.
LINDA09 3 posts Sep 29, 2009 10:32 PM	Yes, the drug store was Dafflers. I went to school with thw Dafflers and my daughter went to school with their daughter. I believe that the soda counter in Dafflers was the oldest operating one in Dayton. I'm sure I have read that somewhere. I wonder if it is still there. The Old Hickory on E Third....on Sat nites my stepmom would pick my dad up from work at Delco Morain and we would go and eat Chicken at 12:00 midnite and it was always packed at that time of nite!!! GOOD MEMORIES
Peggy Gilbert 21 posts Feb 24, 2010 10:39 PM	---------- PEGGY GILBERT GOUGE smurfnana and riverdale rat Regarding the area of E. Third St. Alhambra was the theater and was owned by Bert Fiala my great-uncle it was a wonderful place, and I want readers to know that it was completely out of the Fiala family before it became a XXX rated showhouse. The old Vic and Moms on third was a Liberal Mkt. before that. The Funeral Parlors were futher down third across Webb and they were Hoyne's and Morris Sons. The grassy area at the head of Springfield St. was occupied by Suns Restaurant and Ziegler's Rexall Drugs. The Old Hickory was owned by George Lawson for years and started losing business after a shooting incident but I can't remember the paticulars any more, 2 or 3 people were shot I believe one of them was George and I know one was a lady. Third and webb the shoe store there was a Poll Parrot when I was a kid in the 50's and the Dr. office across Webb was Dr. Byron Stuhlman and Dr. Kent Scholl. Dr. Stuhlman shot his wife and committed suicide in the mid 70's she was sick and crippled for years due to arthiritis and he had just been diagnosed with a terminal cancer. Dr. Scholl just retired in Oct. 2008 he was 81 years old and was my Dr. for 51 years. Between Linden and Huffman there was a Gallegher Drug Store in the 50's but can't remember when it closed. I grew up on Springfield St. and still have property there. Where did you grow up Smurfnana?
Captof 1 post Feb 26, 2010 7:42 PM	Old hickory still has two locations. One on brown and one on north main. East Dayton meats is still around but I dont think its that great anymore.
rosewoodroyal83 7 posts Mar 02, 2010 9:28 PM	Brown Street is Hickory BBQ, not Old Hickory. Old Hickory is on N Main and a second location on Woodman near Airway.
sue2 2 posts Mar 03, 2010 5:48 PM	The name of the theater that used to be on 3rd street was originally called "The Alamo" before it became the Cinema X. I used to go there as a kid on Sunday's to watch spooky movies for 25 cents.
roge 9 posts Mar 31, 2010 1:48 PM	riverdale rat ,the name of the theater on third st. was called the alhambra
Expat 12 posts Apr 01, 2010 7:19 AM	East End Drugs was up closer around 3rd and Harbine, or 3rd and Irwin, I think.
roge 12 posts Apr 06, 2010 11:04 AM	i remember the ole hat record shop right at about springfield and linden on springfield st, bought plenty of 45 s there in the 60 s
delcodude 12 posts Jul 13, 2010 10:16 AM	Huffy Bicycles were made in the factory early on. Mr. Huffman (Mr. Huffy) had nine children and built each one a mansion in the Huffman Historical District. I don't know where the other eight are but Harris Funeral Home, on Linden Ave near 3rd st. is one of them. Last Edited by on Jul 13, 2010 10:17 AM
delcodude 13 posts Jul 13, 2010 10:23 AM	Marck1975 Cinema X on 3rd st. across from Cassano's "Pizza King" was the storied Alhambra theatre. I used to go in Daffler's after school (Stivers) and get a chocolate malt. Awesome! Sorry for the redundancy Peggy! Last Edited by on Jul 13, 2010 10:24 AM
delcodude 14 posts Jul 13, 2010 10:40 AM	SteveK WW Mac's was the Kresge Co. which later became Kmart. That's my stomping grounds and we knew it as the "Dime Store". East End Drugs was at the SW corner of 3rd and Irwin. The Mermaid bar was on the SE corner. Ridgeway Drugs was on the NE corner and I don't remember what was on the NW corner before the dentist office(?)
delcodude 15 posts Jul 13, 2010 10:51 AM	Does anyone remember the Hunt & Wilde(sp) factory on N Irwin between Springfield and Monument streets? They made plastic bicycle grips and "ape tape" for (ape hanger) handlebars. Remember those metal flake designs? I remembere going through their trash and finding some great stuff. (for a 12 yr old)
RIVERDALE RAT 444 posts Aug 16, 2010 3:58 PM	delcodude: "Mr. Huffman (Mr. Huffy) had nine children and built each one a mansion in the Huffman Historical District. I don't know where the other eight are but Harris Funeral Home, on Linden Ave near 3rd st. is one of them" That's a fascinating piece of Dayton history that I had no idea existed. this would make a good project for someone. I wonder where the rest of the mansions are located and how many are still standing?
RIVERDALE RAT 477 posts Aug 20, 2010 9:55 PM	delcodude I'm sure you probably know more about this particular corner than me, but I could have sworn that the old Mermaid Bar was on the NW corner, could this be possible? I had the NE corner figured out as a real estate office, maybe Huffman?
RIVERDALE RAT 498 posts Aug 25, 2010 8:34 AM	Does anybody remember what used to set directly on the fork of Springfield and East 3Rd?
roge 62 posts Aug 25, 2010 2:29 PM	At right where your talking about Riverdale Rat was thee old V Bar
RIVERDALE RAT 499 posts Aug 25, 2010 4:27 PM	Lgrando67--roge Thanks, I was thinking it was some type of a bar, had a white front (maybe) now that you mention, it probably was sorta seedy looking.
roge 63 posts Aug 26, 2010 1:08 PM	The Triangle Bar was at Huffman and Linden,then Mona's was at 5th and Linden,both joints were tuff joints.
RIVERDALE RAT 511 posts Aug 26, 2010 7:10 PM	roge: Ok, Thanks. Mystery solved.
delcodude 48 posts Aug 29, 2010 10:28 AM	Riverdale Rat: Yeah, the Mermaid was at the SE corner of 3rd and Irwin, directly across Irwin from East End Drugs and, right across 3rd from Ridgeway Drugs. Connell's bar still operates next door to where Ridgeway was/is. Roge, I think, pointed out earlier that The Sisters Cafeteria sat at the NW corner. Harvey's barber shop was just west of the dimestore (WW Mac) until Harv moved his shop to Airway rd. at Smithville around 1980. There were two businesses located on the South side of 3rd at/near Monmouth st. On the corner was the Standard Register Co.(which became Unistrut). On the other side of a residential duplex sat the Dayton Renew Tool Co. My Grandparents owned the duplex, at 2804-2806 E. 3rd. And, that's from where my fondest childhood memories come. Further down 3rd at S.Philadelphia was Bill's Donuts which was right next door to the Christian Bookstore. On the NE corner was a Radio Shack in the 70s. At the SW corner was a Bonded filling station. And yeah, the V bar was across 3rd from Winters bank at Springfield and 3rd. The Egyptian custom paintshop and Genuine Auto Parts were just catty-corner from the V bar on the north side and the East Third Market on the south side.
delcodude 59 posts Sep 05, 2010 9:57 AM	Riverdale Rat Yeah, tell me about it. Bill's was right in the heart of my Journal Herald paper route. I remember many mornings three or four hours before school, gobbling down warm glazed donuts with Moler's chocolate milk, Wow. They made incredible creme horns and filled donuts along with the glazed...No Dunkin' Donuts here..ha
roge 66 posts Sep 05, 2010 2:41 PM	Delcodude and Riverdale Rat,I also had a Dayton Daily news route,the branch was right down from Bill"s Donut in an alley off Phildelphia St,on Sunday mornings there was nothing better than hot chocolate from Bill's this memory dates back to about 60 or 61y
delcodude 61 posts Sep 06, 2010 3:06 PM	RIVERDALE RAT "That's a fascinating piece of Dayton history that I had no idea existed. this would make a good project for someone. I wonder where the rest of the mansions are located and how many are still standing?" The Harris', of Harris Funeral Home on Linden Ave gave a great account of that bit of history to me. As I wrote earlier, their Funeral Home is one of the nine mansions Huffman gave to his kids. It would be great to learn of all nine. I'm sure it's just part of a another fascinating story in Dayton's history. One that I wish I knew more of.
medvet84 4 posts Dec 15, 2010 6:35 PM	Wondering if there is anybody out there old enough to remember Linden Heights? I lived there from about 1932 to '41 and don't recall ever hearing the St Charles/Linden Ave area called 'Linden Heights' or, at least now at almost 86, the old memory don't stretch quite that far back for that. One other thing tonight, for several years, because I lived on a little two-bit street named Alverno, several years ago for some reason I began to wonder about that name, ALVERNO?? Finally found an Alverno College in Milwalkee, I believe it was and , on it's web page it explained about Alverno. It seems there is a MT. Alverno in Italy that in about 1265 was given as a reward for many good deeds performed by a Saint (sorry, now I have forgotten his name) so apparently, because of so many streets in the area already bearing Cathlic titles ex; St Paul, St Charles, St Nicholas, St Anthony (Church) and others I have forgotten. Next street west of Alverno, I found out is of a Cathlic nature, I am told based in Cincinnati, correct me if I remember wrong, the name is Kopling. So now I can rest. Remember Franks Poultry House and the stench when the wind blew wrong? And the WPA constructed sports and neighborhood events building on Glen Rd, about the 900 block on the west side, right beside a residence. Played pick up BB ther a couple times when they left the doors unlocked, like over a weekend, maybe. Any body remember when the streetcar barns burned on Loraine? We could see the flames reflecting in the neighbors upper floor windows across Bell Street where we lived at 61. My dad worked at the old Sta A Post office at the corner and walked to work every morning at 6 am until he got a rural route about 1933 when he managed to buy a reliabe car or two, one I remember as a Plymouth with suscide doors, another, a Hupmobile. That Hupp was just too big for everyday RR service. Started 1st grade at old Huffman school, that I now unbderstand has been converted to Senior living. Maybe I should check that out if I could convince my wife and I to move from GA where we moved in '86 back to the snow and ice of that great state. No way. And finally, my dad is the Ralph Miller Charlie Sullivan mentions in his account of '28 years as a rural mail carrier' and I met Charles Sullivan several times in the immediate years before his retirement in 1938. Though my dad's career paralels Mr Sullivan for only a few years,about 5, dad hung up his mail bag with more that 40 years, as both a city and rural carrier. Thanks for reading, I got more sometime if any one is interested??
Curt Dalton 412 posts Dec 15, 2010 8:12 PM	medvet84 - Yes, I would be grateful for you to share any experiences you had in Dayton with us. If you want, you can email me and I can start a page with your memories on it that can be shared with everyone as you think of things, or if they are of specific subjects (like Linden Heights) you can start a new blog for each subject. I would love for you to be like Charles Sullivan and write on various memories you have if you wouldn't mind picking a subject and writing a few words on it (like WWII or the Great Depression, etc.) This offer extends to anyone who might want to try their hand at this. I could begin a page devoted to articles written about Dayton by members of DHBO. For examples of this, see Charles Sullivan's articles he wrote in the 1940s in the Articles section. Aany questions, email me at cdalton@woh.rr.com. I hope to see more of your writing medvet84! ---------- Curt Dalton
Keugene48 128 posts Dec 15, 2010 8:55 PM	medvet84 my brother and sister in law just moved to Alverno Street this summer. They will be interested in knowing what the street was named after.
louisesmith 1 post Aug 28, 2011 4:57 PM	Steve Kolb owned Old Hickory BBQ on E. Third Street. Then George Lawson and Billie L. Smith (wife of Rodney Smith) purchased it. She was shot on Sunday March 4 and died March 5, 1973 in the a.m. hours. She was sitting at the far end of the bar and the shooter came into the bar and point blank shot her about 13 times. She lived to the hospital and died during surgery. No one else was shot. There was two bullet holes in the wall where they had missed. It has been a cold case since then. She did not recognize the man that shot her. There were three Old Hickory BBQ's and they split. Should anyone have and pictures of that place at that time or any of the workers or George and Billie I would love to see them. If you have any info about this murder I would love to know about it also. Reason that I know this because she was my Aunt. Last Edited by on Aug 28, 2011 6:50 PM
CHARMS61 3 posts Oct 27, 2011 10:06 PM	My mom owned another "seedy" bar on E. Third St. on the corner of Third & Garfield St,the Jo-De-Bri..she owned it in the 60's and operated it out of receivership in the 70's.Boy o Boy did she have the stories ! I remember the late nite eats (after she closed the bar) on the weekends ...Old Hickory BBQ & the Mermaid...great food...of course Maple Grove had the best steaks...the Dog House (lol ) for breakfast..
CLee 13 posts Oct 28, 2011 1:07 PM	omg as my grands say. Charms61. My first post went away so I'm trying again. My husband and I went there alot in 65,66. In fact we named our 2nd daughter Jodi because of your mom's place. I still remember the story about how the bar got that name.I guess it was seedy, but our marriage was good then. My brother played drums in a band there. lots of good memories. thanks for posting here.
medvet84 21 posts Aug 10, 2012 10:26 PM	Keugene48; Hope some ome sees this it's been so long since I last wrote about boyhood home on Alverno, sorry. The conclusion is that Alverno was named after an Italian mountain that is famouse for having been a gift to Sainted Preist about 1235. There is a Alverno College in Milwakee that knows the story. It has a web page. The area must have been heavily populated with Roman Cathlics at the time of that suburban developement, 1910-30 when the crash happened. We rented from Gem City(B and L) for $18 a month, address 835. I'll try to remember to look back this time to see if you have seen this. I almost burnt the garage down there trying to burn a Xmas tree inside it. Most of the pictures I have of 835 were taken much more recently. No houses on the east side existed back then and the whole street on the east, south and west was surrounded by embankments from 15 to 25 feet high where the street contractor had stopped excavating from a higher level , hill top, that to some evidently represented Mount Alverno. The whole east side had been cleared and leveled in preperation for basement excavations when the banks started closing in '29. 835 was built in '28.
Keugene48 223 posts Aug 11, 2012 6:43 PM	Medvet84, my brother and sister in law lived at 848 Alverno, they have moved since then. We both enjoyed reading your post!
medvet84 22 posts Aug 13, 2012 8:55 PM	Other side of the street, right? Have they gotten aquainted with the folks at 835 yet? Wish I knew how many families have lived there since mine. Looking back on that time, both me and my younger brother now wonder where we ALL slept in that tiney house when there were 7, yes 7, of us , 1937 to 1942?? Mom, Dad, 2 sisters and 2 brothers, born 1925, '30, '33, '35, '37. Wonder how old the oldest residents are living in the 800 block in 2012? My east Dayton research shows that one of the oldest houses, actuallly facing St Charles is the one on the south east corner. I remember that directly behind # 843, I think , was a 'sand-pit, where the builders found their morter and cement sand and mixed those materials right on site. Not deep and only about 50' -60' east and west by 25' 30' north and south. We neighborhood boys played there, dug trenches and etc that would have given our parents heart attacts if they had known. But the most fun was in the winter when we would all go sledding on a big hill that remained from when the contracters were excavating the area. The steepest sled path we called dead mans hill where if you were lucky you were able to stop your momentum just before you went off a low embankment into a iced over drainage ditch, or sometimes into if the ice was too thin. Just reread your post about your brother having moved. People move a lot more these days than they used to Moble Society, I guess. Thanx for writing. By the way, if your interested in what MEDVET stands for; I was A Medical Corpsman in an Army General Hospital supporting the 3rd Army in France and Germany.
Syxpack 4 posts Aug 23, 2012 5:15 PM	The movie theatre was the Alhambra long before it was a Cinema X, the funeral home was the Charles Moore Funeral Home and the barbecue restaurant was owned by Old Hickory, the same that is on Woodman Drive and Brown Street. I'm 82 years old and grew up in this neighborhood. I went to the old Huffman School that is now a senior retirement home and attended St. Paul Methodist Church on the corner of Fourth and Huffman My friends and I used to stop at Dafflers after school and drink cokes as a friend worked as a soda jerk there. He was a boy named Woody and several of us girls had our eye on him. LOL On down Third Street east of the movie house was the Old Reliable Bar where my dad would stop for a beer.
Billd1952 167 posts Feb 26, 2014 11:59 AM	CHARMS61, I used to shine shoes in Jo De Bri's, and was kinda like a mascot. I remember Ann, and Alice, but I can't remember the other lady's name. She was married to Hank, from Orkin. Ann had a daughter named Deborah. I also remember Mike, and Ann's sister who lived on S. Smithville Rd. Last Edited by Billd1952 on Feb 26, 2014 12:36 PM
RIVERDALE RAT 556 posts Jun 14, 2014 12:21 AM	Been gone from this thread for a couple of years, I quit posting because there wasn't much traffic and I felt like I was hogging the site. Glad to see people are still enjoying the threads that I started and many of them have gone over 100 posts. It makes me happy that my memories are good for something besides getting my kids to tell me to shut up talking about the good old days. :-)
RIVERDALE RAT 639 posts Jun 27, 2014 9:47 PM	Does anyone remember Flohre’s market that used to sit on the SE corner of Jersey and 5th street? Google street view tells me that there is still a market/carry out of some type there. I remember the folks that owned the place and lived upstairs. The only person I have ever found on here that remembered them was delcodude and it looks like he has left the site. Also, does anyone else remember a big old structure that used to sit back off the street on the corner of 4th and Findlay; if memory serves it was an old widow’s home? Google street view tells me that there is now a series of newer one story buildings there, but I can’t tell exactly what they are, a nursing home maybe? Last Edited by RIVERDALE RAT on Jun 27, 2014 9:48 PM
RIVERDALE RAT 641 posts Jun 28, 2014 7:47 PM	luv my Dayton...The whole complex appears to be all smaller one story brick buildings now and they appear to stretch all the way back to Philadelphia Street. I see The old Church of God (of Cleveland Tenn.) has gone and someone else is occupying their building now. I still remember those two old blue church busses that used to park on Philadelphia street by their side entrance.
RIVERDALE RAT 642 posts Jun 28, 2014 7:53 PM	Does anyone recall which school that was that sat at 121 South Monmouth street. Google street view tells me that there is still a school there but it is named something else now.
Billd1952 215 posts Jun 30, 2014 7:57 AM	Riverdale Rat, that would be Holy Family Catholic School.
RIVERDALE RAT 646 posts Jun 30, 2014 9:28 AM	Billd1952... that's what one part of me was saying, but then I also remembered Holy Family Catholic School being next door to the Church on the East lot. That must have been only the lower grades that were there in that building. I recall seeing father Gallagher coming in and out of that building numerous times, so much actually that I wondered if he didn't teach a class there.
joanofthe60s 11 posts Jul 15, 2014 10:26 PM	Rat, I think Bild is right about Flore's being at Jersey and Burkhart. Their son used to work at Delco, so if there was a person here named Delco Dude, that's probably how he knew them was through their son, just guessing. They were all nice people.
RIVERDALE RAT 688 posts Jul 16, 2014 7:41 AM	joanofthe60s...yes he is absolutely correct and I cant believe I typed 5th street. There wasn't and never had been any store of business at the corner of 5th and jersey in my era. There was an old storefront on the house that used to sit on the NE corner of 5th and Philadelphia, but there never was a business in it during my time. I missed that part of Billd1952's post, I must have been to absorbed in the old Widows home info. Yes they were very nice people.
RIVERDALE RAT 707 posts Jul 22, 2014 11:13 AM	If anyone has any updated or current information on the old historic 2 story brick church at 1420 E 4th street (near Dutoit) please let me know. I think it bears looking into. As I recall the original denomination had been gone from there even in my day. When I lived in the neighborhood there was a Pentecostal Group using it. If they have an idea of letting it fall apart or tearing it down, I am willing to mount a preservation effort. The sanctuary windows are boarded up on the west side of the building and it appears to be fading fast, let’s not stand by and lose another piece of Dayton history…Please. Last Edited by RIVERDALE RAT on Jul 22, 2014 11:15 AM
Billd1952 227 posts Jul 22, 2014 12:21 PM	Rat, I may be wrong on the name of the store on the NE corner of East 5th and S. Philadelphia St., but Pennington's Market is stuck in my head. I had a friend who lived in the apartment above the store.
RIVERDALE RAT 708 posts Jul 22, 2014 12:56 PM	Billd1952...It may well have been Pennington's Market. By the time I was around it was just a vacant storeroom with the windows covered, I am thinking perhaps someone was either living there or using it for storage. I think I recall Mr. Hicks (from the Marathon across the street) telling my Mother that he used to be friends with the people who owned it. It sure was a sleepy little end of town in those days with a small town atmosphere. Wish there was a way to go back.
rrfalkno 1 post Mar 13, 2015 7:44 PM	Does anyone know anything about the big house on the southside of Third St in between Huffman and Linden? Next to TLC.
rrfalkno 2 posts Mar 13, 2015 7:47 PM	Riverdale Rat, The church was sold at auction pretty recently. I believe it was a neighbor that had purchased it.

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